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iATN! Member Comments
These are comments about GenesisFour and our products, made
mostly (but not exclusively) by GenesisFour users on iATN! (www.iatn.net).
The only edits are the omission of the salutation, and
correction of typographical errors. All quotes used with
permission.
The
Subject: Re: Shop Management Software
I am
using GenesisFour's Service2000 and cannot say enough good
things about the program. I previously used their prior version
SSM & it was awesome. Both programs have matrix pricing that
will automatically set your selling prices and you can have
multiple matrices for unlimited departments. Reports are equally
as good. It {S2K} is all set up in a Windows environment. The
on-site training & support is tops in the industry. And it {S2K}
exports to QuickBooks! Believe me it can do it ALL!! If you
would like any addition info please feel free to call me @216
898-5800. All I can say is BUY IT!!
Gerry Frank, Owner
Auto Repair Technology
Brook Park, Ohio
2/9/04
The
Subject: Re: Shop Management Software
6
months ago I opened my own shop, before doing so I tried many
management systems at shops I previously worked at and demos
that were sent to me. I have to say I tried on demand 5 and I
decided against the Mitchell system. I have the information
system for repairs, and I purchased GenesisFour's Service2000.
It has been impeccable. A little more money, but an outstanding
program. Training is great and the support is second to none. I
have only had one problem with the system, The Mitchell Rep
crashed it when installing the On Demand Repair Software. I
called Genesis 4 for service and they had my system back up
within 20 minutes. As we tell our customer's, you get what you
pay for... I hope this helps.
Brian Kane, Owner/Technician
Auto Advisors Inc.
Springfield, New Hampshire, USA
1/22/03
Subject: Re: Still looking at shop program
I recently went with Service2000 from GenesisFour. Good
functionality, good interfaces available and a QuickBooks export
system that actually works. Can be purchased as opposed to the
endless software lease and modules added as you require. Invoice
options and look are VERY professional and easy to read. Several
customers have already commented. I know the last thing you want
to hear is "look at something else too" but it is not like you
want to change it every few months or years. I would suggest
actually spending time using a demo as if you were running your
shop with it for several weeks before making a choice.
Jim Cokonis, Owner/Technician
Auto Kinetics
Frederick, Maryland, USA
12/13/04
Subject: Re: {replacement for} Turbo-Mac Software
After the phones went dead at Turbo-Mac around October '03 I
realized that it was time to start looking for a replacement. I
settled on Service 2000 by Genesis Four. This is incredible
software. It simply blows the others out of the water! Also, the
company support has been awesome!
I
had a shop owner from New York call me and ask for my help with
his Turbo-Mac system. I don't know how he found me.
Unfortunately, I was unable to help. I used to be pretty good at
de-bugging my own system, but I have forgotten most of what I
knew. This New York guy said that he had {name removed} personal
phone number but that it no longer worked. Seriously, look at
GenesisFour at:
http://www.genesisfour.com
Good luck,
Mike
Michael Stevenson, Owner/Shop Foreman
Import Automotive
Loma Linda, California (Southern), USA
1/5/05
The
Subject: Re: Shop Management Software
I
have the Service2000 program. I love this program! I do not know
what I did without it. It has never failed for me. The training
is awesome and the people are good to deal with. I would highly
recommend this program.
Craig Crosby, Owner/Technician
A+ Dealer Alternative, Inc.
Tallahassee, Florida, USA
1/22/2003
The
Subject: Re: Shop Management Software
I
have been using an older version (Senior Service Manger) of
software from GenesisFour for 12 years and all I can say about
the product is that it is rock solid! More important than that
is that the service after the sale is impeccable. If you have
any questions feel free to give me a call at 281-391-7617.
Robert Gruener, Owner/Technician
Autotechtronics By Robert, Inc.
Autotechtronics By Robert, Inc.
Katy, Texas, USA
1/23/03
The
Subject: Re: Shop Management Software
I
have recently purchased Service2000 from GenesisFour and am
currently training on it. The software is incredibly well
thought out and so flexible it will take me a month to figure it
out, but it looks like it was worth EVERY dime I spent. My hat
is off to Al and his people for this software.
Scott Groen, Owner/Technician
Fixit1S
Fort Collins, Colorado
11/26/02
The
Subject: Re: Shop Management Software
I
did not like the Service Center program at all and I was having
a lot of problems with errors that they could not fix. They
wanted me to make copies of files and send them in so they could
try to figure out what was happening. I did not have the time
for them to figure it out, it usually happened when a customer
was standing at my counter to pick up a car. I would recommend
talking to GenesisFour. They have a great product and it can be
as big or small as you want. It does cost a little bit but it
has yet to fail or give me one problem.
Craig Crosby, Owner/Technician
A+ Dealer Alternative, Inc.
Tallahassee, Florida, USA
The
Subject: Re: Shop Management Software
I
have been using GenesisFour since 1999 I looked at a lot of
programs, when I was trying to find a management software and
none compared to GenesisFour. Unless Mitchell has added the
built in time clock that tracks tech labor to R.O.'s they are
not even on the same playing field. I would highly recommend
GenesisFour.
Glenn Vannatta, Owner/Technician
Fleet Maintenance Service
Great Falls, Montana, USA
1/23/03
The
Subject: Re: Shop Management Software
We
have been using G4's SSM (Senior Service Manager) since 1998. We
have just upgraded to their new version S2K (Service2000). It is
running flawlessly. The original system was never down. The
upgrade seems like it will be the same. The training & service
after the sale is second to none! I have also installed their
system in (another) shop I just purchased. The tech time
management feature of the program is really powerful. I also use
it to track the different tasks that my office personnel do.
(Preparing promos, processing A/R etc.) Really lets you know
what areas of the business needs attention.
Daniel C. Lange, Owner/Manager
Lange's Automotive
Lange's Automotive
Maumee, Ohio, USA
1/25/03
The
Subject: Re: Shop Management Software
Hi I
have been using Senior Service Manager from GenesisFour since
1999 and have been very pleased with it. It is a very powerful
program with all the needed item with some very nice extra's
like a time clock that tracks time of tech's to job's works very
well and since I turned it on in June 99 has worked with out
fail.
Glenn Vannatta, Owner/Technician
Fleet Maintenance Service
Fleet Maintenance Service
Great Falls, Montana, USA
The
Subject: Re: Shop Management Software
Look
into GenesisFour. Go to
www.genesisfour.com. A very
complete and comprehensive program that can be tailored to what
you need. They are very helpful people. We are just getting
ready to go online with the program. I have looked at a lot of
programs and found this one to be the most complete. Buying
software is a big chore. Good luck.
Nathan Bean, Owner/Technician
Integrity Auto Repair
Integrity Auto Repair
Issaquah, Washington, USA
The
Subject: Re: Shop Management Software
I
spent several months looking for software about a two years ago.
The one I bought is from GenesisFour called Senior Service
Manager V5. It does everything from the service order, parts,
inventory, final invoice, tracking techs time to jobs with it's
built in time clock, full built in accounting, I have been using
it since June '99 with no problems. I will answer any question
you may have drop me a line if you would like any more info.
Glenn Vannatta, Owner/Technician
Fleet Maintenance Service
Fleet Maintenance Service
Great Falls, Montana, USA
The
Subject: Re: Shop Management Software
I
have been using the GenesisFour system for 8 years. We started
as a 2 man shop & now we are a 8 person shop. It has grown
beautifully with us and has helped me in more ways than I care
to type... I am also beta testing Service2000 and it looks just
awesome!
Richard White II, Owner/Technician
Rick White's Tremont St. Garage
Rick White's Tremont St Garage
Melrose, Massachusetts, USA
The
Subject: Re: Shop Management Software
You
might want to give GenesisFour a call at 1-800-937-4364. This
program is client/server technology and is industrial strength
tough. World class support, also.
Jim
McFarland, Owner/Technician
Japanese Auto Service
Orem, Utah, USA
The
Subject: Re: Shop Management Software
I
have just started using Service2000 by GenesisFour. It is
available in modules so you get what you need and can go up from
there as you need. It does a lot and can do a lot more with
upgrades. Go to
www.genesisfour.com and ask
for a demo of the program and they will do a live demo online if
you have a good connection to the internet.
Craig Crosby, Owner/Technician
A+ Dealer Alternative, Inc.
Tallahassee, Florida, USA
The
Subject: Re: Shop Management Software
Our
shop has been using Senior Service Manager by GENESISFOUR since
June of 1992. We started with 5 terminals in one building. Over
the years we have expanded to four shops with 25 terminals. The
software is fantastic and does all we need and more. I would
suggest you at least look at this prior to purchase of anything.
The support we receive, though seldom needed is great. You can
visit GENESISFOUR at (www.genesisfour.com)
I believe. If interested and have questions, please feel free to
call me or email. If that is not the site, a search engine will
locate, or again, please feel free to call.
Dave Gensler, Manager
Smitty's Automotive Service
Toledo, Ohio, USA
The
Subject: Re: Shop Management Software
I
had been checking out Senior Service Manager for 4 years and was
finally so fed up with all the cheap stuff that I went ahead and
bought it. Well I've been using it for 9 months and would never
go back to a cheaper program. It's kind of like this do you want
to use cheap tools that don't work or mess something up or good
ones that do the job right again and again and again. I'm sure
you've been down that road but why entrust your business to
cheap tools that don't do what you want them to do when you want
them to do it. Check them out
www.genesisfour.com they will be glad to help. Nice
people too!!
John
Shanderuk, Owner/Technician
Uptown Imports
Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA
The
Subject: Re: Shop Management Software
Have
had AWESOME results with Senior Service Manager from
GenesisFour. You can call them at 800-YES-GEN4. Have had their
system for about 9 years. We have three techs & have about 10
terminals in the shop. Just a few of the features is electronic
time clock, calculation box to make sure job is profitable in
both the estimate & the actual invoice. Mailings to customers
with this system is an absolute breeze & scheduling is easy.
Happy to talk with you about it in more detail. Call
781-665-9892 during the day & I would love to talk with you.
Richard White II, Owner/Technician
Rick White's Tremont St Garage
Melrose, Massachusetts, USA
The
Subject: Re: Shop Management Software
I
have been using Senior Service Manager (SSM) from GenesisFour
for over 1 1/2 years and it works great! I switched from ShopKey
where I was a beta test site. The QuickBooks interface did not
work and the purchase order program was not effective among
other things. SSM has a great PO and inventory system, canned
jobs are unlimited and can be configured to all vehicles or
specific makes and models. Follow-up works great with or without
mailmerge to MS Word, the GL and all accounting functions are
outstanding. We run a NT server with four work stations. The
system has not been down since startup. If you would like to
talk give me a call at 330-837-0005 M-F 8-5 eastern time.
Carl
(Skip) Sekulich, Owner
Skip's Auto
www.skipsauto.com
Massillon, OH
The
Subject: Re: Shop Management Software
I
have been using Senior Service Manager (SSM) since 1/97. We
started with a Unix machine and 7 stations. Since that time we
have used terminal emulation software and finally Ethernet hubs
to completely network all our PC's. I have been very happy with
the support, software and hardware. I told Al from the beginning
that I was not a computer junky. He would provide hardware,
software and a phone number if I ever had any problems. He has
been true to his end of the bargain. We have had virtually no
problems. Any problems we have had were dealt with immediately.
We have not lost a day with this program. If you have any
questions either call 360-642-4753 or e-mail. You can even come
down for a test drive if you want.
Doug Knutzen, Owner
Box-K Auto Repair Inc.
Seaview, Washington, USA
The
Subject: Re: Shop Management Software
I
looked at approximately 17 different management programs before
deciding on GenesisFour. Several were really Mickey Mouse
glorified invoice writing programs. The program has been very
well thought and is highly functional. Many of the programs I
evaluated were very strong in one or two areas but very weak in
others. Genesis was and is, in my opinion, simply the most
functional and useful. The price was very competitive. The
support prior to and more importantly after the sale has been
remarkable. In all my dealings with Al and his staff, not once
did they tell me anything that was later proved to be untrue.
Genesis Four is a very ethical company. They have been in
existence for several years and from all appearances will be
supporting their product for many years to come. The program is
very user friendly but massive in it's capabilities. It has
taken my staff and myself about month to truly feel comfortable
with the program. We had used our old software for over 8 years.
Now that we are familiar with GenesisFour, we simply love it. We
are discovering new features almost everyday. I strongly urge
you to go multi-user. If you are looking for low level limited
software to simply write invoices or manage inventory there are
many programs available for less. However, if however you are
looking for software that can truly help you manage your
business and increase your profitability, in my opinion, this is
the best value available. I hope this helps in your decision. If
there are any other questions I can answer, please feel free to
contact me.
Greg Mendoza, Owner
Superior Automotive
Twenty-Nine Palms, CA
Thread from the PC Forum
You may want to consider a shop management program that exports
to an accounting program. It seems like that some shop
management programs may have an accounting module, but it may be
lacking in some areas such as payroll. It would be very
difficult for any company that specializes in shop software to
come up with an accounting program that rivals QuickBooks. We
are using Service2000 from GenesisFour which exports to
QuickBooks and it works slickly.
I have used QuickBooks for a few years, but now with the shop
management program exporting into it, it makes things a lot
easier. Doing manual entries from one to the other is a big
drag, it is where you can make errors, and it is also a big
bottleneck in your accounting process. I don't know how
QuickBooks would work for shop management by itself, but it
would seem to be restrictive as you grow. But I am sure there
are many that are using it with great success.
I have used Peachtree before also. In my opinion it does not
offer the features and flexibility of QuickBooks and it seemed
to be very counterintuitive. But again, there are others who may
disagree.
Spend a lot of time setting up the chart of accounts, and get
your CPA's input in the set up stages. It is good to be able to
do bookkeeping yourself, or pay somebody to do it if you are
more valuable somewhere else in the business. You are right,
paying an accountant for basic record keeping can be costly.
However, not having a CPA can even be costlier when it comes to
taxes, and advice.
Stephen Fisette,
Owner/Manager
De Pere Auto Center
De Pere, Wisconsin
Response from another member:
Hey,
I totally agree! I have Service2000 and QuickBooks pro. Talk
about an easy system and integration to QuickBooks.
-Craig
Craig Crosby, Owner/Technician
A+ Dealer Alternative, Inc.
Tallahassee, Florida, USA
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